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	<title>Comments on: Mesa immigration raids prompt policy change</title>
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		<title>By: SherriAZ</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/28/mesa-immigration-raids-prompt-policy-change/274/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>SherriAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We own and operate a long standing business that is directly impacted by other companies hiring illegals. Due to this, they underbid us on many jobs since we hire only legal Americans and have been doing so for many years. We pay higher wages and treat our people great. But thanks to idiots like Kathy 55 (who think that all illegals are just poor victims and aren't hurting anyone ) and cities like Mesa and businesses all over the Valley who don't think about illegals being in their offices, our business has had to scale back on hiring citizens. That's right- Americans losing out on jobs so that illegals can continue working. Oh, and that old line that the illegal lovers trot out about them doing the work that Americans won't do? We've been working FT jobs and running a labor intensive service business for an additional 30 hours per week for FIFTEEN YEARS , we're not young and we can work circles around any illegal any day so don't hand me that garbage. Some of the people in the Valley need to get out and see how real people make a living. Americans are the best workers in the wolrd and we don't need illegal labor- we need living wages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We own and operate a long standing business that is directly impacted by other companies hiring illegals. Due to this, they underbid us on many jobs since we hire only legal Americans and have been doing so for many years. We pay higher wages and treat our people great. But thanks to idiots like Kathy 55 (who think that all illegals are just poor victims and aren&#8217;t hurting anyone ) and cities like Mesa and businesses all over the Valley who don&#8217;t think about illegals being in their offices, our business has had to scale back on hiring citizens. That&#8217;s right- Americans losing out on jobs so that illegals can continue working. Oh, and that old line that the illegal lovers trot out about them doing the work that Americans won&#8217;t do? We&#8217;ve been working FT jobs and running a labor intensive service business for an additional 30 hours per week for FIFTEEN YEARS , we&#8217;re not young and we can work circles around any illegal any day so don&#8217;t hand me that garbage. Some of the people in the Valley need to get out and see how real people make a living. Americans are the best workers in the wolrd and we don&#8217;t need illegal labor- we need living wages.</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/28/mesa-immigration-raids-prompt-policy-change/274/#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilegals will continue to spill into this country until they can come up with an Olympics team....

Heck, They'll  take the gold in "Landscaping" , the silver in "Housekeeping", &#38; the bronze in "drive by shootings"...lol

I say we all pitch in and help them get a team...Then they can all go home.

Keep up the good work Joe..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilegals will continue to spill into this country until they can come up with an Olympics team&#8230;.</p>
<p>Heck, They&#8217;ll  take the gold in &#8220;Landscaping&#8221; , the silver in &#8220;Housekeeping&#8221;, &amp; the bronze in &#8220;drive by shootings&#8221;&#8230;lol</p>
<p>I say we all pitch in and help them get a team&#8230;Then they can all go home.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work Joe..</p>
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		<title>By: pocopogo</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/28/mesa-immigration-raids-prompt-policy-change/274/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>pocopogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>City of Chandler had no problem renewing their (millions annually) contracts for landscaping after their monopoly vendor Artistic was found with many illegal employees during an MCSO raid.  Thank you, Mayor, for clarifying non-serious ID theft. Does that apply to other things like non-serious assault, non-serious kidnapping, non-serious gun possession/use, non-serious theft, non-serious false ID, non-serious possession of false MVD related documents (driver license, registration, insurance)?  As a society, we must owe an apology.   Prop 202 is slated to "stop illegal hiring" but all it will do is give amnesty to (and reward) the companies that are continuing to hire undocumented workers and thus it will allow government agencies the continued protection they need as they allow the current (we didn't know) practices to continue.  Our current Legal Arizona Workers Act went into effect January 1 and works fine; it was what the people wanted. The proposed Prop 202 (misleading title) will gut the present Arizona law since no action can be taken against employers by Arizona until the Federal Government takes action first.  It eliminates whistle-blower reporting. And we will be right back where we were: a MAGNET drawing in (and protecting the employers of) llegal workers and preserving the proud, sanctuary status we have as a city and again will have as a state.  Look seriously at Prop 202's provisions and then vote NO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>City of Chandler had no problem renewing their (millions annually) contracts for landscaping after their monopoly vendor Artistic was found with many illegal employees during an MCSO raid.  Thank you, Mayor, for clarifying non-serious ID theft. Does that apply to other things like non-serious assault, non-serious kidnapping, non-serious gun possession/use, non-serious theft, non-serious false ID, non-serious possession of false MVD related documents (driver license, registration, insurance)?  As a society, we must owe an apology.   Prop 202 is slated to &#8220;stop illegal hiring&#8221; but all it will do is give amnesty to (and reward) the companies that are continuing to hire undocumented workers and thus it will allow government agencies the continued protection they need as they allow the current (we didn&#8217;t know) practices to continue.  Our current Legal Arizona Workers Act went into effect January 1 and works fine; it was what the people wanted. The proposed Prop 202 (misleading title) will gut the present Arizona law since no action can be taken against employers by Arizona until the Federal Government takes action first.  It eliminates whistle-blower reporting. And we will be right back where we were: a MAGNET drawing in (and protecting the employers of) llegal workers and preserving the proud, sanctuary status we have as a city and again will have as a state.  Look seriously at Prop 202&#8217;s provisions and then vote NO!</p>
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		<title>By: HISKOLEDUKATD</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/28/mesa-immigration-raids-prompt-policy-change/274/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>HISKOLEDUKATD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mesaman.....THE ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WHO LOST RESPECT FOR SHERIFF JOE AND THE GREAT DEPUTIES OF THE MCSO WERE A DISGRACE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BEGIN WITH. MY GAWD, LOOK AT ALL THE "RECOMMENDS" ON THE BLOGS IN "FAVOR" OF SHERIFF JOE'S MESA CITY HALL RAID. HAVE YOU SEEN ONE (1) ARIZONA CITY COUNCIL ISSUE AN "OFFICIAL" CONDEMNATION OF THE RAID?...NOT EVEN THE MESA CITY COUNCIL ISSUED AN OFFICIAL CONDEMNATION. THE MESA CITY HALL RAID WILL PUT SHERIFF JOE IN THE "SADDLE" FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS OVERWHELMINGLY. SO, mesaman, YOU , THE NEW TIMES, THE EV TRIB, THE AZ REPULIK, KCET CHANNEL 8's "HORIZON" MODERATOR TED SIMMONS, REPORT PAUL GIBLIN AND ALL THE REST OF THE "PRO-ILLEGAL ALIEN IMMIGRATION CABAL" ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT...SHERIFF JOE RULES........GOD BLESS THE MCSO...THE ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN ARIZONA WHO BELIEVES IN THE RULE OF LAW. GOD BLESS SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO.  GOD BLESS AMERICA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mesaman&#8230;..THE ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WHO LOST RESPECT FOR SHERIFF JOE AND THE GREAT DEPUTIES OF THE MCSO WERE A DISGRACE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BEGIN WITH. MY GAWD, LOOK AT ALL THE &#8220;RECOMMENDS&#8221; ON THE BLOGS IN &#8220;FAVOR&#8221; OF SHERIFF JOE&#8217;S MESA CITY HALL RAID. HAVE YOU SEEN ONE (1) ARIZONA CITY COUNCIL ISSUE AN &#8220;OFFICIAL&#8221; CONDEMNATION OF THE RAID?&#8230;NOT EVEN THE MESA CITY COUNCIL ISSUED AN OFFICIAL CONDEMNATION. THE MESA CITY HALL RAID WILL PUT SHERIFF JOE IN THE &#8220;SADDLE&#8221; FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS OVERWHELMINGLY. SO, mesaman, YOU , THE NEW TIMES, THE EV TRIB, THE AZ REPULIK, KCET CHANNEL 8&#8217;s &#8220;HORIZON&#8221; MODERATOR TED SIMMONS, REPORT PAUL GIBLIN AND ALL THE REST OF THE &#8220;PRO-ILLEGAL ALIEN IMMIGRATION CABAL&#8221; ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT&#8230;SHERIFF JOE RULES&#8230;&#8230;..GOD BLESS THE MCSO&#8230;THE ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN ARIZONA WHO BELIEVES IN THE RULE OF LAW. GOD BLESS SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO.  GOD BLESS AMERICA.</p>
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		<title>By: roman white</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/28/mesa-immigration-raids-prompt-policy-change/274/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>roman white</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kathy you rigth joe arpaio is clown  hox dan saban pleas help us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kathy you rigth joe arpaio is clown  hox dan saban pleas help us</p>
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		<title>By: mesaman</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/28/mesa-immigration-raids-prompt-policy-change/274/#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>mesaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some of you miss the point.  the mayor never said he was upset MCSO was investigating fraud, illegals or anything. His complaint was not giving the LE int he area info and in fact lying to LE that he was conducting opertations.  I assure you MCSO will not be doing that again.  All law enforcement nation wide lost respect for Sheriff Joe on that one.  Now when he comes he will get the support of MPD, just like he has had all along on all of the sweeps and raids.  MPD did help MCSO on the sweeps (when they requested it).  all of this mis conception about lack of support by MPD is false.  Only MCSO has proven that they dont want to work with other agencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of you miss the point.  the mayor never said he was upset MCSO was investigating fraud, illegals or anything. His complaint was not giving the LE int he area info and in fact lying to LE that he was conducting opertations.  I assure you MCSO will not be doing that again.  All law enforcement nation wide lost respect for Sheriff Joe on that one.  Now when he comes he will get the support of MPD, just like he has had all along on all of the sweeps and raids.  MPD did help MCSO on the sweeps (when they requested it).  all of this mis conception about lack of support by MPD is false.  Only MCSO has proven that they dont want to work with other agencies.</p>
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		<title>By: jim murrican</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/28/mesa-immigration-raids-prompt-policy-change/274/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>jim murrican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KATHY 55  SEE YOUR SHRINK !

YOU  GO  JOE   GREAT JOB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KATHY 55  SEE YOUR SHRINK !</p>
<p>YOU  GO  JOE   GREAT JOB</p>
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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/28/mesa-immigration-raids-prompt-policy-change/274/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Kathy55, it has now got the city of Mesa to say Ohh, ok, I guess we'll follow the law. Took Ol' Sheriff Joe to show the public just how Mesa was thumbing it's nose at the law, just like you. Mesa looked at the situation and said, your right, I guess we better look into this. In other words JOE FIXED THE SITUATION! 
Dumb @$$ liberals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Kathy55, it has now got the city of Mesa to say Ohh, ok, I guess we&#8217;ll follow the law. Took Ol&#8217; Sheriff Joe to show the public just how Mesa was thumbing it&#8217;s nose at the law, just like you. Mesa looked at the situation and said, your right, I guess we better look into this. In other words JOE FIXED THE SITUATION!<br />
Dumb @$$ liberals</p>
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		<title>By: onethought</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/28/mesa-immigration-raids-prompt-policy-change/274/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>onethought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent job Joe, if Mesa won't deal with this situation, then I am very happy to see that you are opening their eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent job Joe, if Mesa won&#8217;t deal with this situation, then I am very happy to see that you are opening their eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/10/28/mesa-immigration-raids-prompt-policy-change/274/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holding over the Mayor? 
How about the moral obligation to FOLLOW THE LAW?
Something totally lost on you Kathy55 ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holding over the Mayor?<br />
How about the moral obligation to FOLLOW THE LAW?<br />
Something totally lost on you Kathy55 ?</p>
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