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	<title>Comments on: Gaylord pulls out of San Diego project, Mesa project OK</title>
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		<title>By: ED</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/11/18/gaylord-pulls-out-of-san-diego-project-mesa-project-ok/478/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>ED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My My how bright we are.  Let me see a huge convention center right next to the largest runways the state has to offer until Luke AFB moves out.  Cessna, and other aircraft facilities moving in.
When the Resort comes so will the shopping etc.  Besides I have learned that when the people with the uplifted pinkies come in there goes the neighborhood, go to a club in Snottsdale and you don't know who will approach you in the john. Is it a man or a mouse and the women don't appreciate a stand up urinal in the ladies room for those who can't decide.
Growth is finally coming to the East Valley and appreciate it for there are the future jobs.  Contrary to what others might write or think they are not all low wage jobs.
They will need sound technicians, electricians, AC engineers, and other high paying trades on staff at all times with a resort/convention center that large.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My My how bright we are.  Let me see a huge convention center right next to the largest runways the state has to offer until Luke AFB moves out.  Cessna, and other aircraft facilities moving in.<br />
When the Resort comes so will the shopping etc.  Besides I have learned that when the people with the uplifted pinkies come in there goes the neighborhood, go to a club in Snottsdale and you don&#8217;t know who will approach you in the john. Is it a man or a mouse and the women don&#8217;t appreciate a stand up urinal in the ladies room for those who can&#8217;t decide.<br />
Growth is finally coming to the East Valley and appreciate it for there are the future jobs.  Contrary to what others might write or think they are not all low wage jobs.<br />
They will need sound technicians, electricians, AC engineers, and other high paying trades on staff at all times with a resort/convention center that large.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/11/18/gaylord-pulls-out-of-san-diego-project-mesa-project-ok/478/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ray- you in the market? :-)
Yes they are a publicly traded company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ray- you in the market? <img src='http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Yes they are a publicly traded company.</p>
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		<title>By: Lonnyzone</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/11/18/gaylord-pulls-out-of-san-diego-project-mesa-project-ok/478/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Lonnyzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know why they won't build a Gaylord Converntion center in Page?  Because there is no reason to. Same goes for Mesa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know why they won&#8217;t build a Gaylord Converntion center in Page?  Because there is no reason to. Same goes for Mesa.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/11/18/gaylord-pulls-out-of-san-diego-project-mesa-project-ok/478/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody know if Gaylord is a publicly traded company?   

Gaylord cites "excessive off-site infrastructure costs" as one reason for changing its mind about locating in Chula Vista.   What's "excessive"?   Here, Mesa taxpayers are picking up the tab on that one.  

Beware of Steve.  He's a wholesale dealer of snake oil and his warehouse is well stocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody know if Gaylord is a publicly traded company?   </p>
<p>Gaylord cites &#8220;excessive off-site infrastructure costs&#8221; as one reason for changing its mind about locating in Chula Vista.   What&#8217;s &#8220;excessive&#8221;?   Here, Mesa taxpayers are picking up the tab on that one.  </p>
<p>Beware of Steve.  He&#8217;s a wholesale dealer of snake oil and his warehouse is well stocked.</p>
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		<title>By: MESA  MAMA</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/11/18/gaylord-pulls-out-of-san-diego-project-mesa-project-ok/478/#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>MESA  MAMA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when did Mesa become a tourist place where "HIGH  DOLLAR" folks come to?   In fact, when does anyone come to visit Mesa?  Been here for over 25 yrs....keep moving farther from central city area....BUT the "trash' keeps moving too.  Mesa has lost it.....

Gateway may have a chance.....BUT.....They  need high end shopping...restaurants.... a lavish Casino like Las Vegas.....then maybe a Lush Resort......

Mesa does not have any future thinkers.......just the same old same things....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when did Mesa become a tourist place where &#8220;HIGH  DOLLAR&#8221; folks come to?   In fact, when does anyone come to visit Mesa?  Been here for over 25 yrs&#8230;.keep moving farther from central city area&#8230;.BUT the &#8220;trash&#8217; keeps moving too.  Mesa has lost it&#8230;..</p>
<p>Gateway may have a chance&#8230;..BUT&#8230;..They  need high end shopping&#8230;restaurants&#8230;. a lavish Casino like Las Vegas&#8230;..then maybe a Lush Resort&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Mesa does not have any future thinkers&#8230;&#8230;.just the same old same things&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://mesa.freedomblogging.com/2008/11/18/gaylord-pulls-out-of-san-diego-project-mesa-project-ok/478/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the first two comments are all the opponents can muster this thing will pass 80-20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the first two comments are all the opponents can muster this thing will pass 80-20.</p>
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		<title>By: HISKOLEDUKATD</title>
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		<dc:creator>HISKOLEDUKATD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOW WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD SOME RICH GUY AND HIS WIFE SPEND $500-$800 DOLLARS A NIGHT TO GO TO A RESORT IN "MESA, ARIZONA". ARE THEIR ANY DESIGNER SHOPS LIKE CHANEL, VALENTINO, GUCCI, ETC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? ARE THEIR ANY HIGH PROFILE RESTAURANTS STAFFED WITH FRENCH CHEF'S JUST OFF THE BOAT COOKING "FUSION" AND "TUSCAN" FEASTS? IS THERE A GAMBLING CASINO NEAR BY TO "BLOW" 5-10 THOUSAND DOLLARS? WHAT IS OUT THERE CLOSE-BY THE OLD "MESA PROVING GROUNDS"...YUP, YOU GOT IT....LOTS AND LOTS OF SAGE BRUSH AND A COUPLE OF JACK RABBITS.....BUT, HERE WE GO AGAIN FOLKS......MESA MAYOR SCOTT "WHO NEVER MET A SNAKE-OIL DEVELOPER HE DIDN'T LUV" SMITH AND HIS "RUBBER STAMP" NODDING HEADS CITY COUNCIL WITH THEIR FINGERS ALREADY POISED ON TOP OF THE "YES" VOTE BUTTON.............HEAVEN HELP MESA....MAYOR SMITH AND THE MESA CITY COUNCIL....KEEP DIGGING THAT HOLE DEEPER AND DEEPER AND DEEPER....MAYBE ONE DAY YOU WILL HIT CHINA........LMAO...ROTF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOW WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD SOME RICH GUY AND HIS WIFE SPEND $500-$800 DOLLARS A NIGHT TO GO TO A RESORT IN &#8220;MESA, ARIZONA&#8221;. ARE THEIR ANY DESIGNER SHOPS LIKE CHANEL, VALENTINO, GUCCI, ETC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? ARE THEIR ANY HIGH PROFILE RESTAURANTS STAFFED WITH FRENCH CHEF&#8217;S JUST OFF THE BOAT COOKING &#8220;FUSION&#8221; AND &#8220;TUSCAN&#8221; FEASTS? IS THERE A GAMBLING CASINO NEAR BY TO &#8220;BLOW&#8221; 5-10 THOUSAND DOLLARS? WHAT IS OUT THERE CLOSE-BY THE OLD &#8220;MESA PROVING GROUNDS&#8221;&#8230;YUP, YOU GOT IT&#8230;.LOTS AND LOTS OF SAGE BRUSH AND A COUPLE OF JACK RABBITS&#8230;..BUT, HERE WE GO AGAIN FOLKS&#8230;&#8230;MESA MAYOR SCOTT &#8220;WHO NEVER MET A SNAKE-OIL DEVELOPER HE DIDN&#8217;T LUV&#8221; SMITH AND HIS &#8220;RUBBER STAMP&#8221; NODDING HEADS CITY COUNCIL WITH THEIR FINGERS ALREADY POISED ON TOP OF THE &#8220;YES&#8221; VOTE BUTTON&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.HEAVEN HELP MESA&#8230;.MAYOR SMITH AND THE MESA CITY COUNCIL&#8230;.KEEP DIGGING THAT HOLE DEEPER AND DEEPER AND DEEPER&#8230;.MAYBE ONE DAY YOU WILL HIT CHINA&#8230;&#8230;..LMAO&#8230;ROTF</p>
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		<title>By: Anti-Gay(lord)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anti-Gay(lord)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaylord cited the California problems pertaining to “prolonged planning and approval processes, a complicated regulatory and legal structure, and excessive off-site infrastructure costs.”

That shouldn't be a problem in Mesa.

(1) Mesa is largely unplanned.  And it shows.

(2) Mesa is likewise unregulated and illegal.

(3) Mesa has no infrastructure to speak of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaylord cited the California problems pertaining to “prolonged planning and approval processes, a complicated regulatory and legal structure, and excessive off-site infrastructure costs.”</p>
<p>That shouldn&#8217;t be a problem in Mesa.</p>
<p>(1) Mesa is largely unplanned.  And it shows.</p>
<p>(2) Mesa is likewise unregulated and illegal.</p>
<p>(3) Mesa has no infrastructure to speak of.</p>
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